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The improved version would have been heavier than that by about 1. The new crew member should also be included, but also any additional spare ammunition needed to load the two guns.

This would likely affect the overall driving performance, but to which extent is difficult to tell without any explicit source. The upper tank hull was unchanged from the original Panzer IV. The installation of the main armament would most likely be a direct copy of the Ostwind, possibly with some minor modifications, such as strengthening the overall construction of the mount, given the extra weight added by the gun and the additional crew member.

Two, or even more, in order to cope with the extra weight, metal beams were welded inside the Panzer IV hull to make a stable platform on which the twin 3. Depending on the chassis used for the Ostwind II, there may have been slight differences in armor thickness. In general, the later built Panzer IVs had a maximum frontal armor thickness of 80 mm.

The sides were much thinner, at 30 mm, while the rear was 20 mm thick. The Ostwind II turret design would have been quite similar to the previous version in visual appearance, with some differences. The turret was open-topped, in order to provide a better view of the surroundings and to reduce overall construction costs. This would have also helped remove the gun fumes properly, as the Germans never properly developed a full-enclosed anti-aircraft turret with an adequate ventilation unit.

The turret consisted of 12 welded armor plates. Due to the new gun and the additional crew member, its overall internal layout and its size had to be changed slightly.

In addition, as the two guns were placed side by side, two new openings to the front armor had to be made. The turret traverse mechanism would most likely be a copy of the one used on the Ostwind, which is itself poorly documented. This allowed the crew to move the turret by using the gun traverse. The turret would be placed on a ring-shaped turret base welded to the hull top, with added ball bearings to help with the rotation. It is unknown if the Ostwind II would have the pyramid-shaped sheet of armor welded to the lower part of the front turret.

The turret armor protection would probably have remained the same as on the first version in order to save time and resources.

The secondary sources disagree on the turret armor thickness, as both 16 mm and 25 mm of armor are often attributed. For example, W. Spielberger Gepard, The History of German Anti-Aircraft Tanks mentions that the armor thickness was originally 16 mm, but later, during production, it was increased to 25 mm. Jentz and H. Doyle Panzer Tracts No. The main weapon used was the 3.

This weapon was basically just two 3. Although sharing the same 3. The primary goal of this design was to be simple to operate and easy to produce. It had a new gas-operated breech mechanism, which was loaded with a fixed loading tray with eight-round clips. What is somewhat unusual is that this gun was not placed in its original configuration, but instead side by side, with some 30 cm distance between the two barrels.

This is odd, as it would have been much easier to just install the gun as it was into the Ostwind II turret. The most obvious reason for this kind of installation was reducing the overall height. With such an over-and-under configuration, in order to load the upper gun, the loader would have to stand up, which would expose him to enemy fire. Raising the turret height would only increase the chances of being hit by enemy fire. Another reason would have been the difficulty of putting two loaders on the same side in the relatively cramped turret.

The side-by-side configuration may have complicated production and development, but would at least offer more effective use of internal turret space. The gun itself had to be modified in order to fit inside the turret. The lower part of the carriage and the original gun shield were removed. In order to cover the two front embrasure openings, smaller rectangular shields would be placed in front of each gun barrel. In addition, the spent ammunition baskets had to be smaller. The maximum rate of fire was rounds per minute, but was a more practical rate.

With a muzzle velocity of mps, the maximum effective ceiling was 4, m. The ammunition load is unknown, but in order to feed the two guns, it at least in theory had to be increased from the previous version.

The Ostwind ammunition load differs between sources, ranging from up to 1, spare rounds. It is possible that an ammunition trailer may have been used on the Ostwind II, but how practical it would be in a real combat situation would be questionable.

It must not be forgotten that the German economy in was in a complete state of chaos and ammunition or fuel stocks were in short supply. For self-defense, the crew could rely on the hull-mounted MG 34, retained from the Panzer IV design, and their personal weapons. Author D. He also mentioned that the ammunition load was 2, rounds. This is most likely erroneous, mistaking it with the Destroyer 45 based on the Wirbelwind.

The crew of the Ostwind II would likely consist of a commander, gunner, radio operator, driver, and loader. For the radio operator, the Fu 5 and Fu 2 radio equipment were provided. In addition, the radio operator also operated the hull-mounted machine gun. The positions of the remaining crew members are not listed in the sources. But, given its gun main characteristics, their positions can be deduced.

The 3. As the two guns were placed side by side, the two loaders had to be placed opposite each other. While two loaders would be needed to properly feed the main guns, it is possible that, due to lack of personnel or space, the commander may have acted as the loader on the left side.

This would hinder the main command task, but would provide more working room in the otherwise cramped turret. Given the lack of information, this is merely speculation. The commander would be placed on the left rear side of the turret. The working conditions in the Ostwind II turret would be quite difficult due to the lack of working space.

This was actually a problem even on the previous Ostwind vehicle, and was never effectively solved. According to Walter J. Destroyer , transported to the training center at Ohrdruf, in Thuringia. What happened to them after this point is not clear. Due to the chaos and destruction of the late stages of the war, they may have been used as part of an ad hoc unit in order to fight the advancing Allied formations.

It is more likely that they did not see any action, given their experimental nature. It is also important to consider the fact that the whole Ostwind II construction may have also ended in failure. The installation of two 3. Create account. Ostwind 2 1h 43m. Play trailer Adventure Drama Family. Director Katja von Garnier.

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In the later stages of the Second World War, the Germans lost control over the skies and their ground forces had to endure extensive enemy air attack raids. The use of self-propelled anti-aircraft guns SPAAG based on half-track chassis offered some way to fight back, but these were themselves highly vulnerable, as they lacked proper armor protection.

Starting from , the German focus was on producing vehicles based on the Panzer IV chassis. The vehicle known as the Ostwind Eng. Eastwind was one of them, armed with a single 3. In the hopes of further increasing its firepower, the Germans tested the installation of two 3. The first real effort to create a self-propelled anti-aircraft vehicle based on a tank chassis, known as a Flakpanzer in German, was the Flakpanzer 38 t.

While it was built in some numbers, its design was unsuccessful given the weak firepower, lack of a fully protected turret, and its overall small size. The Panzer IV chassis was deemed more suitable for this task. It needed time to properly set up for firing, which reduced its combat effectiveness. For these reasons, the German Army focused on developing a Flakpanzer based on the Panzer IV having a fully rotating and protected turret.

This would lead to the creation of two similar vehicles. The first introduced was the so-called Wirbelwind , armed with four 2 cm anti-aircraft guns. The second vehicle was the Ostwind, which was quite similar in appearance, being armed with a single 3. Both vehicles were quite simple in design and simply replaced the original Panzer IV turret with an open-top turret with the main gun placed in it. Unusually, the Ostwind, similar to the Wirbelwind, was developed and built by the German Army itself, without the inclusion of any commercial firms.

Due to the worsening economic situation, the use of newly produced tank chassis was limited at best, so repaired and returned from the front chassis had to be reused for this project. While vehicles such as the Ostwind were in great demand, there were huge delays in production, which hindered its introduction to service.

By the time the war ended, only between 6 and 43 such vehicles are believed to have been built, seeing limited combat action. The general development history of the Ostwind II vehicle is, sadly, quite poorly documented in the sources, with very little information available. What is known is that it was developed by the Ostbau-Sagan workshop from Silesia, which was also involved in the development of the Ostwind Flakpanzer.

The main weapon was provided by Gustloff-Werke from Suhl. The request to develop a Flakpanzer armed with two 3. During May several wooded mock-up Flakpanzer projects were presented to a military delegation led by Heinz Guderian.

One of these was a wooden mock-up of a Flakpanzer IV armed with 3. The delegation rejected this project and focused instead on the Wirbelwind, which was also presented at that time. The development of a Flakpanzer IV armed with two 3. The first working prototype was completed only in January Unfortunately, besides a few drawings, no known photographs are believed to have survived to this day, and questions remain as to if even a prototype was built at all.

The name of this vehicle is often described as being Ostwind II. Due to the lack of information in the sources, it is almost impossible to determine if this was an official or post-war invented designation. This article uses the Ostwind II designation, mostly for the sake of simplicity. Due to the worsening situation with the war, new chassis could not be spared for projects besides the original tank configuration.

The chassis used would have varied depending on what was available on hand. This would most likely have included the Panzer IV Ausf. H and J chassis , but out of necessity, older chassis may have also been used. The suspension and running gear were the same as those of the original Panzer IV, with no changes to its construction. It consisted of eight pairs of small road wheels on each side, with every two pairs suspended by leaf-spring units.

There was a front-drive sprocket, a rear idler, and three to four depending on the model used return rollers per side. The original Ostwind had a weight of 25 tonnes. The improved version would have been heavier than that by about 1. The new crew member should also be included, but also any additional spare ammunition needed to load the two guns.

This would likely affect the overall driving performance, but to which extent is difficult to tell without any explicit source. The upper tank hull was unchanged from the original Panzer IV. The installation of the main armament would most likely be a direct copy of the Ostwind, possibly with some minor modifications, such as strengthening the overall construction of the mount, given the extra weight added by the gun and the additional crew member.

Two, or even more, in order to cope with the extra weight, metal beams were welded inside the Panzer IV hull to make a stable platform on which the twin 3.

Depending on the chassis used for the Ostwind II, there may have been slight differences in armor thickness. In general, the later built Panzer IVs had a maximum frontal armor thickness of 80 mm. The sides were much thinner, at 30 mm, while the rear was 20 mm thick. The Ostwind II turret design would have been quite similar to the previous version in visual appearance, with some differences. The turret was open-topped, in order to provide a better view of the surroundings and to reduce overall construction costs.

This would have also helped remove the gun fumes properly, as the Germans never properly developed a full-enclosed anti-aircraft turret with an adequate ventilation unit. The turret consisted of 12 welded armor plates. Due to the new gun and the additional crew member, its overall internal layout and its size had to be changed slightly. In addition, as the two guns were placed side by side, two new openings to the front armor had to be made.

The turret traverse mechanism would most likely be a copy of the one used on the Ostwind, which is itself poorly documented. This allowed the crew to move the turret by using the gun traverse. The turret would be placed on a ring-shaped turret base welded to the hull top, with added ball bearings to help with the rotation.

It is unknown if the Ostwind II would have the pyramid-shaped sheet of armor welded to the lower part of the front turret. The turret armor protection would probably have remained the same as on the first version in order to save time and resources. The secondary sources disagree on the turret armor thickness, as both 16 mm and 25 mm of armor are often attributed. For example, W. Spielberger Gepard, The History of German Anti-Aircraft Tanks mentions that the armor thickness was originally 16 mm, but later, during production, it was increased to 25 mm.

Jentz and H. Doyle Panzer Tracts No. The main weapon used was the 3. This weapon was basically just two 3. Although sharing the same 3. The primary goal of this design was to be simple to operate and easy to produce. It had a new gas-operated breech mechanism, which was loaded with a fixed loading tray with eight-round clips. What is somewhat unusual is that this gun was not placed in its original configuration, but instead side by side, with some 30 cm distance between the two barrels.

This is odd, as it would have been much easier to just install the gun as it was into the Ostwind II turret. The most obvious reason for this kind of installation was reducing the overall height.

With such an over-and-under configuration, in order to load the upper gun, the loader would have to stand up, which would expose him to enemy fire. Raising the turret height would only increase the chances of being hit by enemy fire.

Another reason would have been the difficulty of putting two loaders on the same side in the relatively cramped turret. The side-by-side configuration may have complicated production and development, but would at least offer more effective use of internal turret space. The gun itself had to be modified in order to fit inside the turret.

The lower part of the carriage and the original gun shield were removed. In order to cover the two front embrasure openings, smaller rectangular shields would be placed in front of each gun barrel. In addition, the spent ammunition baskets had to be smaller. The maximum rate of fire was rounds per minute, but was a more practical rate. With a muzzle velocity of mps, the maximum effective ceiling was 4, m.

The ammunition load is unknown, but in order to feed the two guns, it at least in theory had to be increased from the previous version. The Ostwind ammunition load differs between sources, ranging from up to 1, spare rounds.

It is possible that an ammunition trailer may have been used on the Ostwind II, but how practical it would be in a real combat situation would be questionable. It must not be forgotten that the German economy in was in a complete state of chaos and ammunition or fuel stocks were in short supply. For self-defense, the crew could rely on the hull-mounted MG 34, retained from the Panzer IV design, and their personal weapons.

Author D. He also mentioned that the ammunition load was 2, rounds. This is most likely erroneous, mistaking it with the Destroyer 45 based on the Wirbelwind. The crew of the Ostwind II would likely consist of a commander, gunner, radio operator, driver, and loader.

For the radio operator, the Fu 5 and Fu 2 radio equipment were provided. In addition, the radio operator also operated the hull-mounted machine gun. The positions of the remaining crew members are not listed in the sources.

But, given its gun main characteristics, their positions can be deduced. The 3. As the two guns were placed side by side, the two loaders had to be placed opposite each other. While two loaders would be needed to properly feed the main guns, it is possible that, due to lack of personnel or space, the commander may have acted as the loader on the left side.

 

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